Atheist - Humanist Rift ( the Coup d'etat ) & my Deism
) & my Deism
Not only is
atheism godless, it is anti-religious AND anti-humanist
as well! The atheist
movement is attempting to pull off a double “coup d’etat” by destructing
BOTH religion and secular humanism. When you
religion (religious humanism) and secular humanism (secular
common good) you will have essentially killed off most of the goodness
from off of our planet! Humanists are the people (religious and secular)
that make society livable, the atheist utopia is a Hell on earth society!
outraged at the atheist agenda and their coordinated assault on goodness in
the world! I’m disappointed that nobody in the religious world has been
effective in thwarting the carnage. I’m surprised that non-theists can’t
recognize the agenda (or disinterested in fighting it); evidentially they
don’t know what to look for unless their favorite atheist guru clues them
in. The subversion by diversion tactic works very well with a misguided flock.
this post, I will write about what I have discovered along the way in my
journey to organize, support and assist ministers that want to make the world
a better place to live. I start with Ex-Minister’s original intent and
explain the pure ideological rigidity in our world that serves to thwart or
frustrate the attainment of Ex-Minister’s common good mentality. Parts of
this may seem to be self-serving, but I need to tell this as a story and
include details that get into the nitty-gritty concerning the obstacles we
face in getting established.
Original intent? I make a point to re-visit Ex-Minister’s original first page every so often to make certain that the organization doesn’t stray from it’s original purpose which was:
Ex-minister's purpose is to address the abuses of religion in society and to support ministers whom are considering, or have already left their profession. We seek to find ways to use the talents of these former ministers in a way that would benefit society.
To the best of my memory, this was placed upon the worldwide web sometime during 2005 (prior to the skeptical explosion/assertion energized by the new atheist movement). Soon thereafter and to my surprise, the questioning and challenging of religion became in vogue while anti-religious sentiment grew around the world. The demands for more and more critical religious/Biblical content grew upon our two websites. I was obliging for a while until I started to grasp the bigger picture, which has greatly concerned me!
ulterior motives & their utopia
I was “well
schooled” in the tactics of religious fundamentalism and recognize its
activities to be selfish, crude, and destructive. Little did I know in 2005
that an atheistic version of fundamentalism was going to step forth! Up until
May 2008…I just thought that
there was a new renaissance of enlightenment exposing the excesses and errors
of religion. But this movement’s agenda has been more subtle and perverse
than people realize.
Not only is this
movement godless, it is anti-religious AND anti-humanists
as well! The skeptical movement is largely blind to the source of the vast
majority of global common goodness, which comes from the ranks of humanists
(largely religious and secular to a much lesser extent). When you snuff out
religion (religious humanists) and secular humanism (secular
common good) you will have essentially killed off most of the goodness
from off of our planet! Humanists are the people (religious or secular)
that make society livable, the atheist utopia is a hell on earth society.
From my vantage
point, the atheist agenda has been very successful thus far. If good men
continue to do nothing about them, they will drastically alter the landscape
of society to our detriment. Ex-Minister doesn’t want to be confused with
atheism; on the contrary, we are looking for support to fight atheism!
coup d’etat: Killing off religion & secular humanism
movement is attempting to pull off a double “coup d’etat” by destructing
BOTH religion and secular humanism.
I’ve personally witnessed this type of society within Latvia and want NO
PART of their product! Americans don’t think and lack
perspective…preferring to be spoon-fed whatever their remote control
programming tells them to believe. I hope that this alarms you!
infiltrated and supplanted the secular humanist organizations. In my opinion,
there isn’t a secular humanist organization in America that lives and abides
by a traditional understanding of the secular humanist position. There was a
hostile takeover of the Counsel of Secular Humanism while the American
Humanist Association (AHA) awards a Humanist of the year honor to such an
obnoxious person as PZ Myers; this concerns me. Guess which atheist celebrity
the AHA touts in it’s new “Consider Humanism” advertising/fundraising
campaign? That’s right, the atheist Dawkins. Someone ought to tug AHA’s
Executive Director Roy Speckhardt’s ponytail before he saddles the atheist
horse! What’s next? Will the American Humanist Association merge with the
American Atheists? Its getting harder and harder to see the distinctions
In my opinion,
American organized secular humanism is now just isolationist destructive
atheism that counts on continued apathy from the remnants of its secular
humanist constituency. People like myself that want to befriend, appreciate
and work with people of faith (where we can) in a diplomatic fashion suddenly
have had the “humanist rug” swiped out from underneath our feet. We
can’t organize in groups anymore; the atheists have stolen them away!
I’d like to
think that over the years that I haven’t let anyone else do my thinking for
me. Although I travel a similar skeptical path concerning religious claims
with other non-Christian believers, I have found myself frequently at odds
with much of the anti-religious carnage and am aghast at the shallowness and
lack of vision/perspective of skepticism run amuck. Were it not for those
three years in Latvia…I might have aligned with the “fashionable side”
of skepticism and joined in with the atheists.
funding problems of Ex-Minister Organization
I have two
Christian minister friends who tell me that I don’t write with that
condescending angry edge that is evident with most all other skeptics. They
say that they cannot stand to listen or tolerate atheism’s “foaming at the
mouth” mannerism. Both say that it is obvious that I am trying to find
solutions to issues and seek common ground. To my knowledge, these two men
haven’t met each other but they both have said something like this to me…
“Wow, Brian! You don’t hate anyone. How will you raise funds for
Ex-Minister without an enemy? Plus they say, “You consistently take atheists
and other non-theists to task…surely they don’t like you and your
skepticism of religion won’t likely get you any religious support either!”
I hope that the
funding part isn’t true, but my friend’s skepticism and diagnosis is very
accurate! Funding almost always comes through coalition building of likeminded
people. In theory, every non-theist should enthusiastically support
Ex-Minister organization…especially the secular humanists…but they
don’t! Why? Answer: organized secular humanism has been destroyed and it
isn’t the nature of destructive atheism to support a humanist cause! Yes, I
know…the façade is still there but the substance is gone!
atheist vs. secular humanist rift
Writers such as
NY Times writer Mark Oppenheimer have written lately about the
atheists/secular humanist rift . Other non-theists seem to be embarrassed
by the lack of unity of the movement. Me? I see a hostile take over and a
total sell-out of the secular humanists that remain. Give the remnant
non-resistant humanists a few dollars and they will acquiesce over to the
atheist position (survival of the financial fittest). They are a bunch of
worthless cowards and pacifists in my opinion! I’m a veteran that believes
that there are things worth fighting for!
Many that observe and comment upon the rift think that this is merely over what we should call ourselves (atheists, humanists, etc.) or how best to make our case. While these things are important, I see them as missing the bigger picture of humanity. I think it is shallow and arrogant to think that non-theists are exclusively the “saviors of society” and that such a small number of people get to make these types of decisions without first consulting with common good people of faith and involving them in the decision making process! Atheists pushing this agenda’s disrespect of religion are ideologues that are out of touch with reality and society. The atheists have barged in and dismissed much of the good that religious and secular humanist history has produced and want to remake society in their image. Frankly atheists, society doesn’t care how much that you think that you know…until it knows how much you care. We have observed your anti-humanist tendencies and we don’t care to listen to you! We can’t ignore you though because the society you plan to remake is disturbing! Atheism doesn’t need a shrink…it needs a funeral!
It has never been
my objective to become a firebrand for the secular humanists; the objectives
of Ex-Minister have always been my goal and I am disappointed that it hasn’t
garnered support thus far! Most every mention of secular humanism has been associated
with the intention of coalition building with what I thought was a likeminded
group of people for support. Now that I have returned to the US after a
three-year absence…I see that the only coalitions to be built must be with
atheistic ideology if it stands a chance of getting supported.
I have always had
strong philosophical objections to atheism and I haven’t been shy about
expressing them! This has rubbed a number of fellow non-theists the wrong
way…don’t expect any apologies! I’m not a whore that will “sing a
favored tune for my supper!”
I have thought of
writing a book that I would entitle “Confessions of an Ex-Minister”. So
many people have asked me to tell my story and yes, I have had an inquiry
about a movie but they wanted me to contribute funds (which I didn’t have)
and share in the profits. There are so many things that you would not realize
unless you were in my shoes. I don’t want to cry in public or tell a poor me
story because the revolutionary path to make a positive contribution to the
world through the organization is still a work in progress!
It wasn’t wise
of me to use my real name on the websites…I should have used a pen name but
the damage has already been done! I have had so many hateful, cruel and
sabotaging types of things done to me that have made life very difficult for
my wife and I. We are human beings that hurt and bleed when stabbed. The
viciousness of people has played into and complicated my thinking about the
nature of God. Since leaving my Christian faith, I have always believed that
there was “something else there.” The wrestling begins when determining if
that entity should be called “god” and if God was nebulous or personal in
different ideal & skeptical direction
had a worldwide exclusive for a long length of time…and I wish it wasn’t
so! Ex-Minister has been friendly to what I call PC Christianity
(Philosophical or Cultural Christianity) and you won’t find another page
like the Christian Common Good anywhere upon the web coming from a skeptic’s
website. I have a completely different idea about where and how the skeptical
movement should go about their business.
The reality is
that it is the hard-line atheists that get supported and are pushing the
skeptical direction. Americans follow what is popular or marketed to them…it
is like a Geico commercial (you can’t help but notice because they are
always around…tell people enough times and they will believe or buy). Keep
in mind, atheism isn’t that attractive of a post-Christian alternative…but
they are very effective at separating people from their faith. Separating
people from their faith can be a bad thing if they leave for a non-humanist or
a fundamentalist direction!
atheist position is weak and fragile. Christians just can’t do much with
atheists because they have to do so with that big “albatross“ around their
necks…the Bible (a losing proposition that atheists exploit). Realistically
when looking at solving the problematic atheist agenda it is apparent that the
Christians can’t and that the non-theist community won’t
because only the atheist dog gets fed. It is going to have to be
Deism that backs down the atheists!
Do you recall the
hoopla when Anthony Flew renounced atheism? Christians tried to claim him for
his theism until
people like myself clarified that Flew wasn’t a theist or a Christian
but that he was a Deist! Atheists didn’t like it because they KNOW that a
serious case can be made for a deistic god. Atheists are bold with
Christianity, yet timid with Deism.
I have always
been able to “toy” with atheism and feel that I could neutralize if not
destroy atheism with support. I am motivated to do so! Personally, I have been
avoided and disrespected by their cocky leaders and nothing would thrill me
more than to “cut them down to size”! Would I be willing to do this? Give
me what we need to run the organization and you can call me “the atheist hit
Question is this,
“When will the rest of the world stop sitting on the sidelines and step
forth to support the work of Ex-Minister?”
When will skeptics stop feeding the atheist dog? Ex-Minister is in tune
with those who see the need to deal with problematic or toxic religion WITHOUT
going to the atheist extreme of trying to kill religion.
There is a
misperception “out there” that we are/would be “anti-religious.” This
isn’t true! In fact, Ex-Minister would rightfully have to be considered a
protector of religion against the atheist onslaught. Yes, we seek to rid
the world of problems that rogue fundamentalist elements (atheist and
Christian) cause; but don’t confuse us to be anti-religious because we are
well qualified to counter extremists. Please remember, that there is plenty of
division within Christianity already due to fundamentalism. We believe that
our work would lend towards ecumenical success and Christian cohesiveness.
different idea in action
familiar with Patrick Hoogmartens and Jozef De Kesel? They are two courageous
Belgian Bishops that want to challenge/debate the church over clergy celibacy.
Now, isn’t it hypocritical of you to sit back and moan about clergy
pedophiles when progressive thinking would find a way to support these two
pioneers? What? Don’t you think that a happily married minister with a
healthy sexual relationship with his wife would make church life a safer place
for all involved? After all, biblical guidelines clearly permit clergy to
marry. This is just another example of ways that a funded organization like
Ex-Minister could help support two worthy clergymen that are not only unlikely
to get support from within the church. These
men will encounter
plenty of opposition for doing a good deed!
haven’t I expressed my Deistic beliefs earlier?
Up till this
point, I have been very tentative to express my Deism. Tentative because of my
desire to see Ex-Minister come to fruition and sensing that my Deism admission
might hurt the chances of securing funding for the proposed organization.
Perhaps I have self-imposed mind limitations because it is difficult for me to
envision those with stronger religious sentiments supporting us while any sort
of “softening” on the God question would likely hurt us with those
secularists that I had envisioned would be more likely to support us.
What I have been
struggling and wrestling with is “funding concerns” versus what I perceive
to be the nature of God (in the Deist construct). My perception isn’t that
God wants to be worshiped (He isn’t vain) but rather that God should be
acknowledged and respected! My conscious has been bothering me for referring
to myself as a non-theist…in effect this in reality is a denial and
disrespect to God that needs to end! Here I stand!
I don’t want to
go into Deism here, this should all come later. I won’t say
“evidence”…I’d rather say indicators would be a better way to express
things. [Here we are in the year of 2010 and nobody has yet to prove or
disprove God] Frank Schaeffer’s
father Francis stated the concept very well with his perception of the reality
of God (albeit Christian) with one of his book titles “He is There and He
is Not Silent!” A careful
Ex-Minister reader would have already discerned the many Deist clues peppered
throughout the website, starting with my second page “Faith Robs Man”. Certainly,
my Deist admission will change many things and it will take a length of time
to reconcile the website content to where it needs to be. Please be patient
reason prevail…with love and compassion!
Ex-Minister organization will continue to operate from a secular base to deal
with religious and atheistic fundamentalism. Deism has no revelation and
operates with a golden rule, common good mindset based upon reason. I really
want to work with PC Christianity and thus need to distance the organization
from atheism. I sense that people might not believe me on this part…would my
assault on atheism be enough to convince you?
foresee the emergence of atheistic fundamentalism when I started Ex-Minister.
Now that they are here, and here to stay…they are problematic and need to be
dealt with. As a Deist, I will maintain religious skepticism without the
denial of God. I’m not so sure if Deism can rightly be called a religion
because it doesn’t have a revelation. Religion isn’t the problem,
fundamentalism of both persuasions is!
Deism has also kept me quiet about some issues that I have previously been
silent about. Some might think that they have me pegged and assume that I
might side with a particular side on moral issues and politics. Truth is that
I consider myself to be progressive but am much more conservative than you
think. I don’t have much time to work the website, but look for me to
itemize many views upon religiously charged issues of our day. Until then,
serious potential supporters can ask me and I would be willing to discuss
these with you.
progressive means “out of the box” thinking rather than partisanship and
engaging in the politics of resentment. For example, atheists loathe
faith-based initiatives because they are not personally interested in
humanity; they would rather fight the common good because they don’t want
Christians to appear in a positive light. May I remind everyone that I was the
only non-theist in the world to challenge the atheists and they ignored me
(backed down). Still the Counsel for Secular Humanism’s atheist leader refuses
to stand up and debate me on the issue. What a coward!
might not be too familiar with Deism, but I think that it is much more
plausible than atheism. My coming out of the non-theist closet might surprise
you…yes, I wouldn’t have ventured in this direction if I didn’t think I
could defend the Deist viewpoint against whoever you consider your strongest
debater to be. I’m confident…not cocky. Currently, I am separated from my
library, which is stuck in Latvia because I cannot afford to ship it back to
the US. Whenever Ex-Minister gets funded and I regain access to my library, I
am going to target those former ex-minister atheists that are uninterested in
a humanist cause like Ex-Minister.
back to motives and why I originally went into the ministry. I went into the
Christian ministry back then because: 1) I felt that God wanted me to do so 2)
I wanted to do things that helped people (humanity building…which without
that rigid hard-line of fundamentalist mentality is religious humanism). In
kind, I ask you to review your motives, what are they?
challenge you to find a constructive cause or concern that is worthy of your
concentration. Ex-Minister has been my cause that is critical yet goes beyond
being merely destructive. Find a way to get involved in a cause that brings
meaning to life and benefits humanity!
a deep introspection and be critical of yourselves. Are you building anything
of value? Are you the only crowd that agrees with the current assessment of
what the atheists have accomplished? Can you work with other people? Do you
reach out to work with others or are you even approachable? If you were to
work with others, does it have to be in accordance with atheist style and
mannerism? Can’t you do so without pirating secular humanism?
Ex-Minister’s case, I have tried and exhausted myself trying to work with
you! I have first hand experience witnessing atheist politics in action. I
want progress and I’ve discovered that the atheists can’t be worked with!
Ex-Minister is a humanist organization that has been the recipient of
atheism’s politics of resentment. In the skeptical world, atheists are in
the controlling positions of power and frankly…atheists just don’t want to
see anyone succeed unless they are card-carrying atheists.
definitely don’t see atheism as loving people or for that matter even liking
people. It is so evident in the way that the majority of atheists communicate
with those who see differently than you do. Atheists keep repeating that they
are not bad people…I see atheist hostility in your communiqués and I am
still searching to see what good you are doing in our communities (you boast
of having numbers…where is the evidence of your community good?). Face it;
atheism is nothing more than a demolition crew destroying the common good! Why
identify with them if you are a good person?
was “out of the loop” for those three years in Latvia, upon my return to
the US and after critically re-examining American religious society and
culture I have come to many of the same conclusions as Bruce Sheiman in his
exceptional book “An Atheist Defends
I disagree with the extent and degree in which most atheists proclaim
religion to be harmful.
In short, I fault atheism for lacking vision and compassion; your critical eyes of introspection are dimmed. I’ve written two observatory articles this year: Christian Egalitarianism for Non-believers (since deleated) and The Good-guy vs. Bad-guy Scenario: A Fundamentalist Primer . So after reading these you can see why I can’t continue on with you and why atheism is deserving of the “bad guy” label.
And for those of you who might think that…let me assure you that my disgust with atheism has little to do with my Deism and your denial of God (it is not a rivalry/jealousy thing). You may primarily think that the extent of atheism applies to such religions as Christianity or Islam, but it also denies Deism. It rubs me the wrong way that many atheists scoff and ridicule people like myself for believing in God!
criteria I use to determine whom I seek and maintain friendships with have
much to do with the individual’s character and compassion. I can accept your
personal disbelief in God because you fail to see any evidence; this in itself
doesn’t make you a bad person. What I can no longer accept is tolerating
your silence about the demolition of the common good that occurs in your
organizations due to atheism! These groups grow because people accept and
uncritically support them. Your identification with common good killers make
you an accomplice with their ugliness.
You should get off the fence and renounce atheism and their agenda if you are
a common good type of individual.
You should get off the fence and renounce atheism and their agenda if you are a common good type of individual.
closing, I think that there are many skeptics that want a decent group to hang
with that don’t have options right now. I now hereby withdraw all of my
recommendations of any secular group but would very much like to know if after
this posting if I have any atheist friends remaining? I’m not going to pull
back my punches and true freethinkers should respect what I've stated on this post!
would welcome your support for the stand I have taken. I’d also like to extend an invitation for you to
off of the atheist bandwagon and tell groups like: Freedom From Religion
Foundation, Counsel for Secular Humanism, American Atheists where they can
stick their caustic atheism! Stop supporting people in opposition to the
common good and start supporting those that do!
Brian Worley Ex-Minister.orgNovember 18, 2010 All rights reserved