Confessions of an Ex-Minister Part Three (Final)

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Confessions of an Ex-Minister: Part I

Confessions of an Ex-Minister: Part II

(Tennessee Temple years, standing up to Afman the KJV slayer, Sally Buck modeled Jesus to a fundamentalist...greatly influenced me, Post graduation anecdotes, between faith & skepticism passions...what I wished everyone understood with website, synchronicity & God, doctrinal struggles... departure from dispensationalism to Amillenialism, JBS in Lodi, Olan Mills Church Directory rep in Central California & people I'd met, Domelle victim committed suicide, Biblical Euphemisms often #1 Google page on the subject, Paul Kurtz impact, Michael Novak was special, my departure from faith was not personality driven...I get into the why, only Robert Price & myself were the only Trump supporters with skeptical websites, meetings with Evelyn Rothschild, Janet Yellen, Fabians, stand against gay marriage that DC Cardinal "plagerized", Obama & Pope noticed, conservative groups as controlled opposition & why conservatives lose ground...what I said to The Heritage Foundation's rep, and finally what I learned being around organized secularism)

Brian Worley 

March 15, 2026

Had ended Part Two with my leaving Trinity Baptist College, Jacksonville, FL. In hindsight, nearly 40 years later, what a prudent move that was! I stood my ground in a hostile environment (opposed by a dozen of Trinity’s sycophant, plausible deniability leadership team) and delivered what a true minister does…confronts wayward souls! Tom Messer was in that meeting; his silence was a “good move” for him personally. I think it is sad that a number of Trinity Alumni find it best to “not mention” any affiliation with the school. What I cannot comprehend are the “souls” that affiliate with any religious institution that tolerates and covers up unholy matters and degradation. Holiness is largely absent in today’s churches… without holiness Heb 12:14 “no man shall see the Lord.”

Moving forward, I had two viable options, Bob Jones and Tennessee Temple (TTU) to attain a degree and both were lukewarm on the KJV. Two alumni influenced my decision to go to TTU. I would have loved to have gone to Liberty, but it wasn’t practical for me in time for the upcoming semester. I had heard stories of TTU’s Dr. Fred Afman roughing up several students (some from my Haywood County, NC home.) I knew that I’d have to take classes with Afman. I wasn’t thrilled with my options, yet I was determined to be the first person in the history of my family tree (either side) to graduate from college.

With the reprobate Trinity leadership fiasco behind me, some folks urged me to quit college, my parents were amongst them. That said, my dad changed his stance, and “came up” with $700 enabling me to enroll. This “secret fund” became an issue in their marriage. However,  the military had toughened me up, I became a “street fighter” and I wasn’t about to become a drop-out. Why? Discipline is important. My observation has been that most “tentmakers” lack the skills (precision, content, consistency) and thus fritter away their congregants’ time every week with diminishing returns.  Ultimately, they resort to nagging their people which builds resentment. Church should be an exciting place that motivates, challenges and fosters growth with like-minded people! Better expositors build better congregations.

Trinity never shook my faith…but it taught me the ugliness of church politics which toughened me up. Temple built my faith…but along the way challenged it. I’ll always be appreciative for the high-quality education, how they taught students to think, and for all the great expositors of scripture that spoke on campus. Nat Phillips work with preachers was outstanding! Nat Phillips had depth, was well read and the perfect choice for teaching aspiring preachers;  it was Phillips’ that brought up one of Will Durant’s greatest insights concerning secular strife with religion and the decline and rebuilding of civilizations.  That “nugget of truth” was what tempered my “Durant informed response” when essentially the majority of “secular voices” sought to destroy faith in society. Without Nat Phillip’s insights, I wouldn’t have known enough (nor have the courage) to take the isolated stances against aggressive secularism. Nat’s homiletics classes differed from Trinity, he warned against “zeal without knowledge”, he introduced us to Warren Wiersbe’s writings, the Yale Lecture Series and the importance of teaching what the Bible taught (rather than one’s own ideas). I was sad to see that Wiersbe passed in May 2019, confession, he was my all-time favorite Bible expositor.  

Glenn Swygart made history so interesting and pertinent. I’m appreciative of Dr. Hollingsworth’s instructions on education (especially those that seek to change the definitions and usage of words). That wisdom helped/prepared me against those wanting to re-define marriage; as it is rare for a secular/skeptical writer to go against “gay marriage” …yet I took that stance! Regina Siler taught debate and flipped my thinking on the value of literature for a preacher. She got me hooked on timelines and getting a grip on the context of placing oneself into the events of the era of when the work was written. I’ll be forever appreciative for that computer class that taught how to build databases. These two skills (databases/timelines) merged as I have since built a 16,000+ line database coupled as a historical timeline to assist me with better understanding our world!  

I cherished the few memories of encounters with the great Chattanooga Presbyterian, Ben Haden…what a great man! Five years after graduation I visited Chattanooga and went to his church with my bride. He remembered me after all that time. Ben had a way to connect with people and had a unique style from the pulpit.  

Earlier, I mentioned my reluctance to go to Temple because of Afman’s reputation. Sure enough, and soon enough I had classes with him. He knew of my transfer from Trinity (a strong KJV school) and how I felt about the KJV. I just couldn’t be a regular student.  I tell you; he went after me, I felt like a “marked” man at Temple because of the KJV! Afman was a KJV hunter/slayer!  

One day in class, Afman seeking to make a buffoon of anyone preferring the KJV, picked a fight with me in the classroom. I had avoided confrontation to the best of my ability…but Afman wasn’t going to be denied! It took somewhere until about the 4-6th week of classes for him to bait me. That day he again belittled KJV people and I shook my head slightly (2-3 inches) and that was all it took, he was ready. He accosted me and asked me what was wrong?  

I told Afman in front of the entire class that I thought he wasn’t being fair to those of us that took the KJV position…that there is another vantage point other than his own that simply hasn’t been taught. If it were taught, that this vantagepoint was superior to the man in the pew in the building up of faith. Afman said, “Do you really believe this?” I said certainly! He then challenged me. He told me if I wanted to…he would allot me 15 minutes of class time, on the last day before Thanksgiving break, in front of the entire class with the stipulation that he would also be permitted to critique and or rebut what was stated. He said, if you can agree to these terms…prepare yourself and we will engage on the last day before break. I said…” you’re on!”  

Afman was very intimidating, as even he and the cantankerous Peter Ruckman had been sparring publicly for at least a decade! Some might say that Afman was the leading KJV foe in Christendom…and he was on Tennessee Temple’s payroll.  Afman had this “chip on his shoulder” that in my and many others’ opinion wasn’t healthy in a faith setting. I’m certain that this point alone had a lot to do with dwindling enrollment numbers at TTU. TTU eventually closed , at one time it was one of the largest “Independent Baptist” Christian schools in the country. I’m adding these lines as I tell my story because leadership in faith institutions should be cautious about who they allow to train their preachers.  

Bible college/seminary is very different than a trade school or secular institution. You can’t be uncertain on faith matters or else you will lose your people to those with a “warmer thermostat.” In my view, a fundamentalist faith institution must be absolute upon Bibliology. Bibliology is “objective” while matters such as modes of baptism, eschatology are “subjective” matters that can be forever argued by people claiming faith.  

Fundamentalists are “tethered” with Bibliology while liberals are shifty, like a “kite in the wind” and are in my opinion disingenuous using the church to “bait” people while “switching” them over to “social justice matters” that frequently contradict what the Bible teaches.  Christian liberals are leeches, they “borrow Christian capital” …but they don’t believe the Book!  This wasn’t what I had envisioned when I went in pursuit of ministerial training. My “gut” feeling while transferring was that TTU was headed in the wrong direction…and that proved correct.  

Passion is a very important matter in life! People crave passion, its absence creates a vacuum.  The Bibliology anchor is absent in liberal Christianity. This is why liberals “substitute” (some say prostitute) themselves over to social justice matters. Liberal churches are an oxymoron…or as Donald Trump has well stated…”Everything liberals touch turns to shit.” Its not that I hate liberal Christianity, it’s more a matter that it is illegitimate…authenticity matters!  

Sorry for that detour, it was necessary, because I needed to “double down” on the importance on this.  

Finally, the Afman KJV challenge presentation day came….I’m laughing because all of the sudden…that class got “very crowded…it had about a dozen more people than normal.” People that weren’t enrolled in the class suddenly attended that one class after hearing about it…the stage was set, they came to “sit in” on that session because the expectation was that Afman was going to rough up a KJV advocate!  

Afman was intimidating, he would chew you up and spit you out! Word on campus was that Brian Worley was next! One thing that I have always believed in is that “truth fears no inquiry”. For as daunting and intimidating of a challenge this was of presenting a KJV position to perhaps the toughest living critic alive (all the while as a student and in front of my peers) …I WAS PREPARED!  

Frankly, I couldn’t wait because I knew exactly what I wanted to do. I had a strategy; I hit Afman with a presentation that I didn’t think he could handle or want to tangle with! I didn’t go on apologetically or on defense…I went on OFFENSE! I wanted to make Afman squirm for have taken a faith degradation position and using his platform to “whip up” on ministerial “preacher boys”. Damn right I was mad! Afman gave me an opportunity…it was “carpe deim” for me! I walked into the “lion’s den” that no one thought I’d survive…and walked out unscathed!  

For someone not well acquainted with this issue, you have the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus verses the Textus Receptus (which I preferred). To me, the real issue was the content of those texts and upon translation into English what and how they read to the man in the pew! Vaticanus & Sinaiticus have glaring omissions that one should not and cannot just omit. I had gathered these together and made a point of how these omissions weaken confidence and Biblical doctrine. I had made an overhead for the projector and showed how for example, I John 5: 7-8 was omitted in the NIV.  

With this up upon the screen and in front of everyone…I asked the question, “Where did I John 5:7-8 go?” I didn’t ask that question rhetorically. No, I looked Afman in the eyes and several others and they didn’t want any part of that…I knew I had them! I then asked the question, “What would a skeptic think when presented chapter and verse simply isn’t there?” I point out that “this is one of the strongest verses in the Bible for the Trinity…and you are willing to tell me that presenting a Bible that slyly seeks to attempt to sail right pass these omitted verses is what you want to present to the man in the pew?” I ask, “Seriously, do you think this builds faith or diminishes faith?” I finished by stating that those taking a reasoned KJV position do so for the contents and quality of the texts…that anyone following Westcott/Hort and the Alexandrian texts will always have to deal with a “faith diminishing” text.  

The Reaction?

I finished presenting, took my slides down, curious of what the nasal toned voice of Afman would say?  Afman’s response was short on words, all he said is that I did a good job of presenting. What else could he say? He never attempted to re-but any of my points! What was an intimidating situation for myself turned to my favor, I proved my point, I stood up to Afman!  Oh, the confidence after this, no student had challenged Afman this way…I’m certain this disappointed some that wanted to watch him ridicule a KJV student. I was treated differently afterwards by staff and students on campus as I knew several people were happy about that presentation/confrontation. I was focused and humble in victory…I wanted to finish at Tennessee Temple and get my degree.  

The Tennessee Temple years are where I really learned about Jesus…but not as you might think. During my senior year, I was a weekend youth pastor about an hour’s drive away from Chattanooga. I really enjoyed college life but those were the most demanding years of balancing work, studies, and play. There was an elderly widowed lady named Sally Buck that modeled Jesus that I took note of. Sally was different than any other woman I had ever met in life. At first, she kept after me to come over to her home and man, Sally could cook! It isn’t that I didn’t want to go over…I was struggling with time demands on studies and ministry…and well, she really liked to talk. My better senses prevailed, lucky me, it turned into a joy visiting her!  

In candor, she told me of how in her younger years she worked for Mr. Danner at Shoney’s Big Boy restaurant. Raymond Danner was one of the better businessmen in US history, see the link of his obituary. Essentially, Sally Buck was a corporate spy with a nice restaurant resume. Mr. Danner would pay and move her around whenever he wanted to discover someone else’s business secrets. She would get hired, and report back to Mr. Danner what she had learned from competitors. It was Sally Buck’s recipe for Shoney’s carrot cake that Shoney’s used throughout its chain. While she didn’t struggle, she didn’t have much money. It was her compassion, concern that I noticed. At Trinity, it was a driven soul winning “fishing for souls” and earnestly contending for the faith culture school. Sally Buck modeled for me the Jesus side that was a caretaker and ministered to the needs of people as Jesus would have. Sally lived in what seemed to be subsidized housing and there were many neighboring kids that their momma would “lock the doors when a male visitor came over” and suddenly…the kids were left outside. Ethnicity nor race mattered, Sally would watch over, wipe their snotty little noses and feed them meals on her limited income. Sally taught me a lot about life…she wasn’t a self-centered lady. Sally loved people like Jesus did in the New Testament and I am so grateful to her and how her faith impacted others on a limited income. You may think it odd to mention this in context with ministerial training…no, while she had nothing to do with TTU, Sally had a tremendous influence upon me, showing what true Christianity actually should look like!  

Just prior before graduation I had broken my foot in a youth versus the adult men football game. The youth had never beaten the adult men…I coached the youth very hard… and we won! Pressure due to heavy class load, the broken foot and my getting ordained back in North Carolina forced me to resign the youth pastor position 7-8 weeks before graduation. I loved that church and those Tennessee people! There will always be a place in my heart for the Duncan family for their hospitality and acquainting me with Sally Buck!  

Closing thoughts on TTU. I absolutely loved TTU! Trinity was a college, TTU was a university. The quality of education at TTU was excellent! While you may have taken my critique as negative, let me say that ministry was their “calling card” and ultimately I’m giving my take that it was their lack of detail (especially in Bibliology) that caused them to lose enrollment. That said, the difference between a Bible college and a university is significant. Dr. Richard Young made me think more than any other Christian than I’d ever encountered in my life! I just didn’t have the time to pursue the subject matter…he was outstanding! One last word on Afman, his class on Bible Study Methods was an eye opener for me! No sarcasm, I meant it. That was an excellent class! Why, one of the methods he taught was how to study the Bible critically…well, here we are! TTU has some great alumni. I remember my thoughts of the talents of several of my classmates and curious of what they might do afterwards… see Pedro Echevarria . Sad to see what happened with TTU closing.  

Post graduation anecdotes  

We frolic in our emancipation from theology, but have we developed a natural ethic – a moral code independent of religion – strong enough to keep our instincts of acquisition, pugnacity, and sex from debasing our civilization into a mire of greed, crime and promiscuity?

In my eyes, unless one has something better to offer than NO, nothing independent of religion understands this question, engages or has answers! This is why a para-church organization like ex-minister needs to be in place. The destruction and degradation of religion are vital matters. People like myself (ex-ministers) should have a deep understanding of this…but the majority don’t! The institutions need cleaning up. The vacuum is apparent; religion and theology have an important role. If the churches could fix their problems…they would have already done so. Its evident they cannot. An entity from the skeptical side (Ex-Minister) needs to be authentic as a skeptic yet lead (with support) to set the tone against those that war against these matters as understood by Durant. By the way, Durant was headed towards the ministry…then turned away…he became one of the best historians ever. He was a prolific writer. You’ll see two links at the center/bottom of the main website page if you want to grasp his wisdom.

What about you?

Frankly, I could care less if you do or don’t have faith. I want the world to be a better place and I hope you too will do your part to make it better. Please, find a way. I’ve been candid by communicating some of my experiences. What if much of the world that found themselves in a compromised field, trade or way of life said…enough is enough! What if you walked away from something for the reason that it may adversely affect your fellow man?

·         What keeps you in line?

·         What provokes you to stray?

·         Are you loyal to your vows?

·         What are your values?

·         Do you use people?

·         Do you do what you say you’ll do? Keep your word?

·         Are you manipulative? Controlling?

·         Is money your God?

I’ll end with some Durant.

We frolic in our emancipation from theology, but have we developed a natural ethic – a moral code independent of religion – strong enough to keep our instincts of acquisition, pugnacity, and sex from debasing our civilization into a mire of greed, crime and promiscuity?

"Hence a certain tension between religion and society marks the higher stages of every civilization. Religion begins by offering magical aid to harassed and bewildered men; it culminates by giving to a people that unity of morals and belief which seems so favorable to statesmanship and art; it ends by fighting suicidally in the lost cause of the past. For as knowledge grows or alters continually, it clashes with mythology and theology, which change with geological leisureliness. Priestly control of arts and letters is then felt as a galling shackle or hateful barrier, and intellectual history takes on the character of a "conflict between science and religion." Institutions which were at first in the hands of the clergy, like law and punishment, education and morals, marriage and divorce, tend to escape from ecclesiastical control, and become secular, perhaps profane. The intellectual classes abandon the ancient theology and-after some hesitation- the moral code allied with it; literature and philosophy become anticlerical. The movement of liberation rises to an exuberant worship of reason, and falls to a paralyzing disillusionment with every dogma and every idea. Conduct, deprived of its religious supports, deteriorates into epicurean chaos; and life itself, shorn of consoling faith, becomes a burden alike to conscious poverty and to weary wealth. In the end a society and its religion tend to fall together, like body and soul, in a harmonious death. Meanwhile among the oppressed another myth arises, gives new form to human hope, new courage to human effort, and after centuries of chaos builds another civilization." 

Will & Ariel Durant

"The Story of Civilization V.1"

Brian Worley    Ex-Minister.org  March 15, 2026   All Rights Reserved

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